CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
Posted in Cisco on October 31st, 2009 by Saba – Be the first to commentCisco must make some adjustments on new exam format otherwise it is totally waste of time to try
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Atlanta CCIE wrote:
> Not the bp but the format
looks more like the 2day format
> > On 10/31/09, Joe Astorino wrote: > > I’ll bite. Totally untrue and insulting to ,anybody that passed v3.0. > Just > > because you are not an expert does not mean that people deemed experts > > before are magically no longer experts because the bp changed. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Astorino – CCIE #24347 R&S > > Technical Instructor – IPexpert, Inc. > > Cell: +1.586.212.6107 > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > > Mailto: jastorino@ipexpert.com > > > > —–Original Message—– > > From: Ryan West > > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:51:17 > > To: Atlanta CCIE > > Cc: Christopher Copley; Roy > > Waterman; Cisco > > certification > > Subject: Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped > > > > More constructive and extremely techinical posts from the troll. > > > > Sent from handheld. > > > > On Oct 31, 2009, at 12:16 PM, “Atlanta CCIE” > > wrote: > > > >> Chris – Great Review and sorry to hear you didnt pass. Results are > >> not in > >> yet so dont give up. > >> > >> Looks like soon we will have to look at CCIE#s AFTER Oct 18th 2009 > >> to gauge > >> the candidate’s skills
No more free rides (for now). I can > >> already see > >> how folks got free CCIE#s between Feb-Oct18th 2009 (Yeah bitch all you > >> want). > >> > >> Chris – dont give up and hit back in 30 days. > >> > >> As for OEQs, I agree and have been saying that. > >> > >> Let the hate begin
> >> > >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Christopher Copley > >> >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Roy, > >>> > >>> The SP track was actually some thing I was looking to do any > >>> way. Being > >>> that I am >>> speaking. I > >>> still want to go back and beat the R&S exam. I have put to much > >>> time and > >>> dedication in it to quit now! I will get it, i am just not sure > >>> of the > >>> path I will take to get there now. > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Roy Waterman > >>> >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Chris > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for your feedback & shame you didnt pass this time. > >>>> Am just wondering, you mentioned you would be pursuing the SP track. > >>>> Knowing what it will take to pass the lab, can I ask why you just > >>>> dont > >>>> carry on, & prepare to pass it? > >>>> After all, if you restart in 6-9 months, it may well take you > >>>> longer to > >>> get > >>>> back up to the stage that you are now? > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> Roy > >>>> > >>>> 2009/10/31 Christopher Copley > >>>> > >>>>> All, > >>>>> > >>>>> I just got back from the lab yesterday and I have to say the above > >>>>> comments > >>>>> in this post are right on 100%. IMHO there are no more so > >>>>> called core > >>>>> and > >>>>> non-core tasks! You have to now go into the lab with a nearly > >>>>> perfect > >>>>> knowledge of EVERY THING on the blue print. In my past studies I > >>> focused > >>>>> very hard on L2, L3 & some of the smaller topics like services > >>>>> (i.e. > >>> ntp, > >>>>> drp, netflow, etc) I knew well, but knew where they were in the > >>>>> DocCD. > >>>>> ***YOU CAN NOT DO THIS NOW!!!!****. With out breaking NDA, > >>>>> lets say > >>> you > >>>>> have a question in trouble shooting on what in the past was a Non- > >>>>> Core > >>>>> topic. You DO NOT have time to go to the DocCD. You have to be > >>>>> able to > >>>>> spit out any solution both Core and Non-Core and any tweek on it > >>>>> with > >>> out > >>>>> looking at the DocCD. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have worked on my company’s IT Emergency Response Team for a > >>>>> number of > >>>>> years now, and I have to say the way the new Trouble shooting > >>>>> section is > >>>>> designed made me feel like I was in a ERT swarm session. The > >>>>> time limit > >>>>> and > >>>>> the clock counting down adds a TON of pressure!!! The only thing > >>>>> that > >>> was > >>>>> missing was a VP, and CIO standing over my shoulder with a upset > >>>>> look on > >>>>> their face!!! > >>>>> > >>>>> I will agree with what everything people are saying about the > >>>>> Trouble > >>>>> shooting Section. The question are VERY vague, but in my > >>>>> experience > >>> this > >>>>> is > >>>>> the type of trouble tickets I get at work. Typically I get > >>>>> tickets from > >>>>> my > >>>>> NOC that say network node “X” is unreachable, and that is ALL > >>>>> that is in > >>>>> the > >>>>> ticket. I think the CCIE team must have asked customers for > >>>>> copies of > >>>>> there > >>>>> NOC tickets and emulated them in the exam. This new Trouble > >>>>> Shooting > >>>>> section really raises the bar and the focus on the CCIE exam. > >>>>> This is > >>> not > >>>>> my first attempt at the lab, and I will say it is totally > >>>>> different that > >>>>> the > >>>>> V3 lab. > >>>>> > >>>>> I feel we all have to shift the way we study in order to pass the > >>>>> new > >>>>> exam. > >>>>> I would not say memorize the Non-core tasks but learn them just > >>>>> as well > >>> as > >>>>> core tasks. Focus on the Blue Print VERY VERY hard. If it is > >>>>> on the > >>>>> Blue > >>>>> Print know it 125% If you see it on the Blue print you have to > >>>>> be able > >>> to > >>>>> spit out every thing on the subject with out the DocCD for any > >>>>> help!!! > >>>>> > >>>>> OEQ – Same old stuff, nothing new here. But I feel with the new > >>>>> Trouble > >>>>> shooting section it is now pointless and a waist of time. > >>>>> > >>>>> Config section – Just like every one has said, there are less > >>>>> sections, > >>>>> but > >>>>> more tasks in each section. So basically the same old lab in a > >>>>> 5.5 hour > >>>>> session. No time for the DocCD if you need help. You have to be > >>>>> in a > >>>>> rush > >>>>> the whole lab. I really recommend that everyone goes any buys a > >>>>> stop > >>>>> watch > >>>>> and start timing your config sections and find ways to shorten > >>>>> your time > >>>>> on > >>>>> every study section. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> My results – I dont have the official results yet, but I already > >>>>> know I > >>>>> failed. I was not able to get enough trouble tickets done by the > >>>>> time > >>>>> limit. I did the math and knew I did not reach the ~80% to pass. > >>> When > >>>>> the clock hit and I knew I did not pass the TS it took me nearly > >>>>> 30 min > >>> to > >>>>> pick my self up and continue on with the config section. Knowing > >>>>> that > >>> the > >>>>> rest of my day was basically a waist of my time, I found it VERY > >>>>> hard to > >>>>> bring myself to go through the pain of the rest of the lab, when > >>>>> I knew > >>> it > >>>>> was in vain. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am going to go back to study and shift my focus, and try again in > >>> maybe > >>>>> 6 > >>>>> or 9 months. Service Provider here I come!!! > >>>>> > >>>>> I hope this helps everyone out there, and good luck!!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Chris > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> — > >>>> Regards > >>>> Roy > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> — > >> CCIE# 17xxx (R&S/SP) > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > — > Sent from my mobile device > > CCIE# 17xxx (R&S/SP) > > > > _______________________________________________________________________